As people, we do two things. We all want pleasure, and we all want to avoid pain. These two simple concepts can either help us thrive or keep us deprived, and we do this to ourselves.
Brilliant exploration, my friend, which comes with no surprise! If I may add something here, I'd say that there might be some exception to the rule for the "achievers" group!
As a former perfectionist or, what is clinically known as a person suffering from an Imposter Syndrome, I used to be a workaholic and top performer!
It wasn't because I had a clear sense of my drive and motivation. Rather because I was deriving my worth from two sources: 1. Achieving and 2. People pleasing!
That is, unless we may come back to our original granted Center before any conditioning started taking place (the Universal Principles/Laws), being an achiever is merely a coping mechanism and can be as unhealthy as the other quadrants, if not more (I had at least 3 burnouts during my IT career in corporates).
Great addition, Myriam. The 'Achiever' is merely a label for someone who 'achieves' what they desire to do from taking action rather than an archetype of someone who has it all figured out. I was merely suggesting that those who do take action have a higher association with the pleasure of their outcome and a low one with the pain of doing it. I love your thinking; I agree nonetheless.
Oh I do know what you were trying to explain, my friend! And that's exactly how I used to feel from achieving what I used ro decide I needed to do!
The problem was the motivation (much more telling than achieving, it seems to me)!
A healthy achiever, to me, would feel high pleasure because they served and added some plus-value to the world or community or even one person (while being guided by a principled mission).
An unhealthy achiever like my former version would get a high because they felt important and were able to reassure themselves that they do matter in the absence of any intrinsic worth that was discriminated against!
Brilliant exploration, my friend, which comes with no surprise! If I may add something here, I'd say that there might be some exception to the rule for the "achievers" group!
As a former perfectionist or, what is clinically known as a person suffering from an Imposter Syndrome, I used to be a workaholic and top performer!
It wasn't because I had a clear sense of my drive and motivation. Rather because I was deriving my worth from two sources: 1. Achieving and 2. People pleasing!
That is, unless we may come back to our original granted Center before any conditioning started taking place (the Universal Principles/Laws), being an achiever is merely a coping mechanism and can be as unhealthy as the other quadrants, if not more (I had at least 3 burnouts during my IT career in corporates).
Great addition, Myriam. The 'Achiever' is merely a label for someone who 'achieves' what they desire to do from taking action rather than an archetype of someone who has it all figured out. I was merely suggesting that those who do take action have a higher association with the pleasure of their outcome and a low one with the pain of doing it. I love your thinking; I agree nonetheless.
Oh I do know what you were trying to explain, my friend! And that's exactly how I used to feel from achieving what I used ro decide I needed to do!
The problem was the motivation (much more telling than achieving, it seems to me)!
A healthy achiever, to me, would feel high pleasure because they served and added some plus-value to the world or community or even one person (while being guided by a principled mission).
An unhealthy achiever like my former version would get a high because they felt important and were able to reassure themselves that they do matter in the absence of any intrinsic worth that was discriminated against!
Absolutely! Intention is so important here and I'm with you that the outcome that brings about value for people in the world is a MUST.